82' Chevette with Power Spoiler (Does it help??)

[amccoy11]

Yes, I have a 82 Chevette that I have recently disabled the air conditioning system for extra power. That seemed to help a little, but then my friend told me about a spoiler that would help the aerodynamics of the car at high speeds (which I love to haul ass!!! do:wiggle:). I researched quite a few spoilers before I made my final decision. I got the Powerspoiler from Edellen Brothers and it rocks. In my search for raw power I talked to a guy in Southern California that recommended a nitrous kit. I wanted to know what kind of results I could get from such an addition to my ride. Please keep in mind this is not the extended Cavalier, but the 82' Short Wheel Base Chevette. (Custom Paint / Sage / with Fire Pinstripes). Any advice or input would be helpful. I GOT THE NEED FOR SPEED!!!!!!!!! PS Does anyone know if there is a chip that is compatible to my Chevette? Thanks
"Fast Andy" (Eddie's Cousin)

[Mustang Boy]

nitrous is the cheapest way to horsepower and can be capable of great amounts of horsepower if the motor is built right

and a little insight needed cause im not accustomed with chevettes is your fwd or rwd and how big is the motor and how many cylinders is it

[traceyrhoades]

Hi Fast Andy,

I hear what your saying there with your dilema about how to make your wheels roll faster.

I used to have a tricked out Gremlin that had a spoiler... I never thought about deactivating the air conditioning system for more power (that is a good idea!!!:specool: . Those spoilers can really make a difference. Sounds like a hot ride. Sounds like you roll the way I do.

Here is what I think you should do.... I found this stuff at Dollar Tree, it is an additive that you put in the gas. It is called "Fuel Booster". When I tried it in my Gremlin, I swear it made such a difference I crapped myself. I suggest wearing a adult size diaper upon the first try...it will really amaze you. I think you could benefit from the nitrous as well, but I don't know if it will have as much as an impact as the Fuel Booster will. I also know a guy that sells a propane or butane booster kit that has some people talking too. Please keep your thread going, as I would like to know how this turns out for you.

Can you post a pic of that ride??...it sounds hot.

Tracey "I LIKE TO RACE THEE" Rhoades

[hammered54]

all right!!! had one of them back in the day, never thought of racing it but what do I know,, is it an auto tranz. or stick? there are so many little thing's you could do, change gear oil to synt. in both rear end and manual tranz. that will pick you up a bit, or put a shift kit in if an auto, now about n2o that's takin that little 4 popper's life in your hand's don"t ya think? I'd stick with the simple thing's, change the fan to some kind"a lite wieght type, dump any extra wieght that will help

[bleu]

:mfr_omg: Hi Fast Andy,

Here is what I think you should do.... I found this stuff at Dollar Tree, it is an additive that you put in the gas. It is called "Fuel Booster".


Ok, time for a wake up call. There is NOTHING in this world that you add to your gas from dollar tree that will add power. NOTHING. As far as it out performing N2O...not ever ever ever.

There are two basic types of additives. Octane booster and valve cleaner. (not counting lead additives). Will higher octane make a car go faster? absolutely not. Now, if you have a car that is highly tuned for 100 octane and you are running 87 for some reason, yes your engine is probably knocking on the door to heaven hoping to get some better gas. but stock cars using the gas the manual says they should use do not benefit from snake oil.

The other additive simply helps clean the depositis off of the valves on an old engine. If they were significant you will notice an slight improvement in MPG and power. This improvement will remian after you stop using the additive.

In both cases you are talking about a 1-5 hp difference. Even in the most extreme cases you will not get more than 10 hp.

[Gremlin_smoke]

Ahhhhh... The ol' fuel booster.... that is some wicked stuff.... It does work!! Not sure what is in that stuff, but it will get those horses runnin like they are on espresso and speed.....

How many ounces do you put in at a time? I was scared of adding more than 8 ounces per tank.

[hammered54]

oh stop it! use a can of something to clean crap out and you found a little sleeping hp, I heard that moth ball's work!! (but man is it hard gettin them little leg"s apart) no for real it's the naptha, just use a little better gas and forget the instant hp in a can , octane booster is for car's with a little bit more c/r than the shhhhhhhhhhh vette, stick with the simple stuff, make it breath a little better, open up the exh. pipe a little more, heat up the spark, you know all the stuff that realy work's ,advance the timing a little,check the cam belt, on and on and on, it's the detail's that will make it work!!

[Nate]

I believe the "moth balls" trick was disproven on one of my fav shows...Mythbusters..awesome show :thumb_yello:

[hammered54]

no it was one of the only one's that worked if I remember I was shocked when I heard, there the one's that said it was the naptha that may have been why,by the way it's one of mine also!!

[amccoy11]

Thanks for all the advice everyone.... After reading everything and pondering, I think I want to try the fuel booster and maybe the moth balls. I don't know anything about Dollar Tree....Is that a motorsport shop of some kind? Do you know where I might be able to find a Dollar Tree?

I am in East Texas.

Also, I have some moth balls, but they might be old. Is there an expiration date that anyone knows about?

Thanks,

Fast Andy

[amccoy11]

One more thing... How many balls do I put in the tank at once? Are there any moth ball experts in the house?

[hammered54]

if I were you I'd skip all the fuel additive's and go the with the small stuff first, it's realy all about gett'in the gas in burn'in it and getting it out (as fast as you can) if I remember that car has a real cool 2bbl. carb. with mech. seconedary's, rejet it get a good air filter( maybe even a ram air kit) and put a free flow'in muffler on , now that would be $$$$ well spent, and take your time with a real good tune,it's a lot ez'er that you think.
Good luck

[amccoy11]

Hammered, I really appreaciate you taking the time to address my questions, but can you please stick to the latest questions.

Where the heck is a Dollar Tree?

and

How many moth balls at a time do I stick in my tank.

If I find that these methods are not as potent as I feel they may be, then I will then check into getting a new air filter.

Can anyone answer my questions?

Thanks,
Fast Andy

[flames4me]

wow, hammered54 is trying as hard as he can to explain the actual way to make a car go faster, he is giving you some of the best advice a mechanic can... free up the intake and exhaust, if you can upgrade your fuel delivery, etc and do not wast your money on stuff that is designed to appeal to the nieve (sp?) young car builder. moth balls and octane booster will give you much less power than a good free flowing muffler will. and that muffler is with you the until you sell the car, the octane booster is with you til you have to fill the tank agian.

ps. if you really want to add stuff to your gas, go to any automotive parts store, ask for whatever you want (performance octane booster, upper engine cleaner/restorer, fuel system cleaner, etc) and im sure oth balls are avail at walmart, any big store. and experiment with wahatever you want, just remember to stat small, and gradually work up.

since when did a nitrous forum turn into a chevette/mothball/fuel additive forum? if you want more questions answeered about your specific car that is not nitrous related, go to a chevette forum... here, theres a bunch http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chevette+forum&btnG=Google+Search

[hammered54]

sorry , your right got a little carried away, thought I was helping out, guess I was wrong,

[bleu]

Hammered is totally right on this one.

Having said that. Dollar Tree is a dollar store. it's where you go buy anything they have for a dollar. If you are into dumping sand into your gas tank because I told you it would go faster, then I have some sand that will add at least 50 lbs to your torque. Notice I did not say lbs-ft.

I understand now that you are not at all serious about making your car go faster. Wanna make some cheap speed? Here you go:
Lets say your car has 300hp and wieghs 4000lbs. Thats 13.3 lbs/hp. Which is close to a 0-60 of 6 seconds. little faster than an accord a little slower than a Mustang GT.
Tear down interior: -200lbs (free)
Remove AC: -30 lbs (free)
Lighter battery: -10 ($60)
Remove Stereo and speakers: -20 lbs (free)

Now you are at 3740lbs and 300 hp thats = 12.5 or about equal to Mustang GT.

Lets add some power: here is some options with the cost/hp you choose.
Advance your timing: 10hp/ free
tune up you engine: 5hp/free
snake oil from dollar tree 1hp 3 bucks (you don't feel it, your lbs/hp doesn't change and it runs out)
Used performance exaust $200 10 hp $20/hp (you might feel it but you will hear it)
Air filter: $40 5 hp $8/hp
Used performance intake $100 10hp $10/hp
Nitrous kit: $700 100 hp $7/hp Wanna take it to the limit?
Nitrous kit: $700 150hp $4.67/hp

lets be conservative and say you did the free stuff only:

wieght: 3750
HP:315
lbs/hp start: 13.3
lbs/hp end: 11.9 (better than a mustang GT better than snake oil)

Lets say you are a real gear head and do most of the mods with an eye to reliability: Cost $1000, cost per hp
Wieght: 3740
HP: about 420 (100shot, intake, exhaust, timing, tuning)
lbs/hp: 8.9 (better than my (when stock) Lotus Elise)

Wanna get detailed? i do consulting work for a small fee. $50 gets you a run down of parts from various manufacturer's and their claimed HP improvements. I provide you options and research. You make the decisions. Got a out of pocket expense cap? let me know and I'll provide you with a list of used parts to use and locations to those parts. I do consulting not wrench turning.

laters,

Bleu

[flames4me]

sorry , your right got a little carried away, thought I was helping out, guess I was wrong,

no, hammered, i wasnt getting mad at you, i just got agrivated when your gave good advice to amccoy11 and he didnt listen, i was trying to tell him to listen to hammered b/c he gave good advice, and mothballs and fuel additives arnt.

[hammered54]

Thank's that's cool , did'nt think that you were but did go a little overboard with this , thought he wanted to get it ready to spray, guess not