I'm stuck

[RadRacer]

OK. I want to juice my car, but I've got a few issues:

1- It's my DD. Is it even legal? (I've been told no)
2- I don't want to hurt my car. I'm making payments for another 4 years!
3- The price. I know it's the best bang for the buck, but how much does it cost for refills, how often do you need refills, etc etc?!?

I really want more power in my Camaro, and I think this is the way to go. I know I won't get what I want out of bolt-ons.

Thanks for the info guys

[krazy4]

nitrous is great for more power just make sure you install your kit right and i reccomend getting a window switch. You won't hurt your car as long as you don't get jealous and turn up the hit. Nitrous refills are usually 3-4 dollars a pound and most kits come with 10 pound bottles. If you decide to go the nitrous route make sure you set up everything correctly and then have fun.

[RadRacer]

Ya. I've done research, and realize I should use a Window switch along with an arming switch. Main thing I want to know is how often do people harm their motor after, say, a pro-install of N2O? And, is it even legal on the street?

[Mustang Boy]

i wouldnt recommend using nitrous all of the time cause that will harm ur motor and send u to the refill station pretty often nitrous is more of a thing for the track or the dyno
if u want power all of the time i would go the bolt on route and then maybe go more in depth with the mods as u see fit

[RadRacer]

i wouldnt recommend using nitrous all of the time cause that will harm ur motor and send u to the refill station pretty often nitrous is more of a thing for the track or the dyno
if u want power all of the time i would go the bolt on route and then maybe go more in depth with the mods as u see fit

Ya, running the whole time definitely seems like it would harm your motor. I just wanted it for when I'm at the track, and to show off to my friends (purging looks awesome :P ). Maybe I'll use it everyone once in a while while on the street, when those ricers and other cars want to race.

[SadisticMystic]

Nitrous is the best bang for your buck go fast mod IMO. The law may vary from state to state but in Colorado it is illegal to have your bottle open, but not to have it on the car (this is easily solved with the purchase of a remote bottle opener, you can open and close the bottle valve from the driver seat. Besides, you don't want your bottle open all the time when cruising anyway.)

Nitrous itself will NOT harm your motor. Motor damage comes from many things a few being:

1. Running a low octane fuel, or running too big of a shot and no tune!

2. Spraying your car at a low rpm or in 5th gear.

3. Not running the proper heat range spark plug

etc., etc.,

The main thing is to not push your motor past what it is capable of, be smart with the juice and take your time and install everything properly. Start out with the smallest jet settings and work your way up to a comfortable level (By comfortable I mean within reason for your motor. It will be very tempting to throw the biggest jets you have at your car, if you do be prepared to pay.)

This is just the tip of the iceberg, do your research and have fun, a dyno tune or wideband might not be a bad idea either.

Good Luck choosing a kit! (I recommend NX wet)

[krazy4]

Nx wet would be a good idea

[RadRacer]

Nitrous is the best bang for your buck go fast mod IMO. The law may vary from state to state but in Colorado it is illegal to have your bottle open, but not to have it on the car (this is easily solved with the purchase of a remote bottle opener, you can open and close the bottle valve from the driver seat. Besides, you don't want your bottle open all the time when cruising anyway.)

Nitrous itself will NOT harm your motor. Motor damage comes from many things a few being:

1. Running a low octane fuel, or running too big of a shot and no tune!

2. Spraying your car at a low rpm or in 5th gear.

3. Not running the proper heat range spark plug

etc., etc.,

The main thing is to not push your motor past what it is capable of, be smart with the juice and take your time and install everything properly. Start out with the smallest jet settings and work your way up to a comfortable level (By comfortable I mean within reason for your motor. It will be very tempting to throw the biggest jets you have at your car, if you do be prepared to pay.)

This is just the tip of the iceberg, do your research and have fun, a dyno tune or wideband might not be a bad idea either.

Good Luck choosing a kit! (I recommend NX wet)

Like I said, I've done some research. I know I should run the highest octane I can (93 here in FL), I know I shouldn't do more than a 100 shot without a tune (and 100 shot requires a new fuel pump), and I know that I should put different spark plugs (nk-3 I think it was, something like that).

I was thinking a wet 75 shot on my 3.8. I'd have a window switch that kicked it in at 2500 to 3500 (maybe 4000) RPMS, I'd do my best to hide the bottle, wires, and switches (already have ideas for most of them), and was hoping to get an electric opener, along with a blanket (is a heat pad necessary?). That's pretty much all I plan on putting in, along with a dual outlet purge system.

Sound good?

[krazy4]

you can hide the bottle in the spare tire compartment or in the rear speaker boxes.

[RadRacer]

you can hide the bottle in the spare tire compartment or in the rear speaker boxes.

I was thinking the spare tire one, but if I have a flat, then I'm screwed. And the rear speaker boxes is a good idea, but my amp's in the right one, and the left one is where my jack and stuff is stored (I think).

[krazy4]

I was thinking the spare tire one, but if I have a flat, then I'm screwed. And the rear speaker boxes is a good idea, but my amp's in the right one, and the left one is where my jack and stuff is stored (I think).
theres many more places to hide the bottle i just can't remember the others mentioned for F-bodies, someone wanna chime in.

[SadisticMystic]

Like I said, I've done some research. I know I should run the highest octane I can (93 here in FL), I know I shouldn't do more than a 100 shot without a tune (and 100 shot requires a new fuel pump), and I know that I should put different spark plugs (nk-3 I think it was, something like that).

I was thinking a wet 75 shot on my 3.8. I'd have a window switch that kicked it in at 2500 to 3500 (maybe 4000) RPMS, I'd do my best to hide the bottle, wires, and switches (already have ideas for most of them), and was hoping to get an electric opener, along with a blanket (is a heat pad necessary?). That's pretty much all I plan on putting in, along with a dual outlet purge system.

Sound good?

Looks like you have good ideas to work from, only thing left to do is put it into action. If you live in a cooler climate I would recommend the bottle heater or something like a fire and ice controller from NX (keeps bottle at exact temp you set it at).

To maintain 1000 psi of bottle pressure I believe the ambient air temp. must be around 97* F or so, thats pretty damn hot!

[RadRacer]

Looks like you have good ideas to work from, only thing left to do is put it into action. If you live in a cooler climate I would recommend the bottle heater or something like a fire and ice controller from NX (keeps bottle at exact temp you set it at).

To maintain 1000 psi of bottle pressure I believe the ambient air temp. must be around 97* F or so, thats pretty damn hot!

I'm in FL, so right now it's probably just a degree or two cooler than that. It's starting to cool down though, so I guess I could use a warmer.

[Mustang Boy]

i also live in florida and if the bottle heater form NX does wut it sounds like it does i would recommend getting it cause it sounds like it also cools the bottle which would be good cause im pretty sure that here in florida especially in the summer im pretty sure the trunk gets warmer than 97* F

[SadisticMystic]

The NX Fire and Ice controller will cool the bottle or heat it up in order to achieve the temperature you have set it at for perfect operation. The NX bottle heater will only heat the bottle when the pressure transducer senses that the bottle pressure drops below optimal operating pressure (can't remember if they are adjustable or not).

If you are only going to be spraying in the warmer months I would probably skip the bottle heater and just get a blanket, that will stabilize the bottle pressure and keep the sun off of the bottle if you have it mounted where it gets alot of exposure.

The Fire and Ice controller would be perfect for any application, but it is a little on the expensive side.

Good Luck Choosing!

[RadRacer]

If I do it, my bottle will most likely be hidden. So, I don't have to worry much about the sun. I'll take a look at the fire and ice thing and think about it. I'll probably wait until I save up abit more, then buy it. Running it without the heater/cooler won't hurt anything, right?

[SadisticMystic]

Optimum bottle pressure is 950-1000 psi, running higher psi than that will lean it out, lower than that you won't receive advertised hp/tq numbers for the shot size and could possibly cause puddling. I've sprayed as low as 800 psi and as high as 1100 without any issues.

[speedtweekerz]

if you have a high bottle pressure reading, just purge it off to bring it into the green. it is a waste but it is better than a popped engine.

[Mustang Boy]

wut color is ur camaro and where r u thinking of mounting the bottle cause somwehre like the trunk of a dark colored car would get pretty warm in the florida sun now if ur putting it somhere where the a/c would help cool the area down a lil i would think all u would need is the blanket

[RadRacer]

wut color is ur camaro and where r u thinking of mounting the bottle cause somwehre like the trunk of a dark colored car would get pretty warm in the florida sun now if ur putting it somhere where the a/c would help cool the area down a lil i would think all u would need is the blanket

I'tll probably be in the spare tire place, which is covered up and probably gets really hot. My car's red, so it's not a heat magnet, but it's not a heat repeller either. I'm thinking go ahead and get the set-up, then purge until it's green, or don't use Nos at all, and purge it to show off :D . Then, when I get enouhg money, buy the fire n ice thing.

[Mustang Boy]

that would be good and the only time u really need it is at the track and the few times u wanna show off on the street

[RadRacer]

that would be good and the only time u really need it is at the track and the few times u wanna show off on the street

Good. So, I guess I'm set then. Now, I've just got to hope that I get the job I applied for so I can get the kit :o

If not, I'm sure I can save up for it, it'll just take abit longer.

[mrr23]

hey rad, glad you made it over. you'll get some good advice from the people here. if it was my car, i'd do a 75 shot on it.

[RadRacer]

dang. Last night I had a fight with my mom, and I guess I'm not getting Nos. At first, she didn't say anythign about it, so I figured she didn' care. But then she suddenly changed her mind.....

[Nate]

geez i hate to hear that man. Save the pennies up..in the mean time, you can do a lot more homework on Nitrous.

[Mustang Boy]

im in the same boat ur in man my mom wont let me do any boost at all to my car not turbo or SC or nitrous i gotta keep it NA till i can buy it from her

[RadRacer]

geez i hate to hear that man. Save the pennies up..in the mean time, you can do a lot more homework on Nitrous.

Well, in the mean time, I'm getting a CAI, a chip, and anything else N/A that I can find :D